Comments on: Who Do You Want Representing You?

By: Glen Graham

Glen Graham — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:00:00 +0000

Checking out the web site for over-turned DNA convictions at innocence.org and thinking about the largest jury verdict in history in Tulsa, Oklahoma for a guy who spent 14 years in prison when DNA evidence showed he could not have committed the crime [Alvin McGee, Jr. v. City of Tulsa, in the Northern District of Oklahoma --- jury awared 14.5 million dollars, settled on appeal for 12 million 250 thousand dollars - involved false identification and a photo line-up] —- I think about how many people may just pead guilty to crimes they didn’t commit to get a plea bargain because they cannot afford a good lawyer. According to the innocence project numerous over-turned DNA convictions even had “false confessions” where people confessed to crimes even though DNA evidence showed it wasn’t them. The constitutional rights should be taken more seriously and explained that they are very — very important — even maybe should be written in blood since there are so many who have died for those rights.

By: Malum

Malum — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 03:06:00 +0000

Mark,

Your blog left me with mixed feelings. Far too often, I see "lawyers" come into my courtroom and ask to withdrawal from a case when the client decides they do not want to plea. It sickens me to see these guys come in here asking me for help filling out their plea petitions or asking what the statutory guidelines are in their client's matters.

A novel approach is to require a certification where criminal law attorneys must intern at the PD's office, much like physicians, for their first two years of practice.

Dont get me wrong there are several APD's out there that are just as gun shy and spend their days shoving pleas down their clients throats.

But my solution will guarantee that when someone calls themselves a crimanl defense attorney, that they at least know how to explain to their clients the rights they are waiving when they do plea.

This will clear out the field and leave the defending to people like us who are passionate about it.

By: Colin

Colin — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 12:44:00 +0000

good thing we know the drug war isn't going anywhere then.

for those of us who aren't lawyers,

how much does a crappy defense lawyer usually cost?

how much does a good defense attorney usually cost?

By: Mark Bennett

Mark Bennett — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 01:28:00 +0000

It’s better than zero percent financing. Appointed lawyers will likely be paid more than the criminal pretense lawyers (sorry, Gideon, but let’s put the shoe on a foot that it fits) would have been, so we’ll be subsidizing the defense of the working poor.

You’re right, of course, that ending the drug war would do away with most arrests. It would also put most of us lawyers out of business. That’s acceptable to me.

By: Mark Bennett

Mark Bennett — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 01:23:00 +0000

Robert,

Here are the Greensheet lawyer ads. I didn't read them all, but they don't seem that objectionable to me -- not, at least, compared to letter lawyers' letters.

By: IWTS

IWTS — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:18:00 +0000

Zero percent financing for your attorney. Sounds good. Why not offer guaranteed private loans like college financial aid? Interesting.

Where do public defender offices fit?

Here comes my dead horse- If Prohibition ended, we would not have the need to arrest masses of working poor.

The best criminal pretense lawyers are foudn in the greensheet. Post some of that ad copy on your site. It is alarming.

By: Gideon

Gideon — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 23:35:00 +0000

Ugh. I hate the word pretense. I’ve heard it far too often to call someone else that.

The paycheck-to-paycheck analysis is spot on, though. You don’t qualify for a public defender and you sure as hell can’t afford an expensive lawyer (that’s not to say that cheap lawyers aren’t good, but if one turned out to be, you’re lucky).