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		<title>By: Dave Thompson</title>
		<link>http://bennettandbennett.com/blog/2008/11/redemption-theory-vs-reality.html/comment-page-1#comment-9293</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you are absolutely wrong, there is a piece of paper with the same name as you, which belongs to the government, it can be called the &quot;security of the person&quot;. 

People in Canada have gotten the proof that the human being and the person are two different entities, from the courts, from the government, even from the bank.  Jacques-Antoine:Normandin is an example of this, his person died years ago, but the human being is still alive, and a judge in the Court of Quebec recognized this.

I will only defend myself as a true human being in a Common Law court, never as a person in private law courts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you are absolutely wrong, there is a piece of paper with the same name as you, which belongs to the government, it can be called the &#8220;security of the person&#8221;. </p>
<p>People in Canada have gotten the proof that the human being and the person are two different entities, from the courts, from the government, even from the bank.  Jacques-Antoine:Normandin is an example of this, his person died years ago, but the human being is still alive, and a judge in the Court of Quebec recognized this.</p>
<p>I will only defend myself as a true human being in a Common Law court, never as a person in private law courts.</p>
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		<title>By: Clay S. Conrad</title>
		<link>http://bennettandbennett.com/blog/2008/11/redemption-theory-vs-reality.html/comment-page-1#comment-7874</link>
		<dc:creator>Clay S. Conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve known alot of these types of people for years.  One &quot;shining&quot; example is Peymon Mottadeheh, http://www.livefreenow.org, who runs the &quot;freedom law school.&quot;  He invited me to speak at one of his &quot;seminars&quot; once, on juries.  He didn&#039;t like the fact that I kept tearing apart the fallacies he was pushing.

The only thing these people have on their side is their gullibility.  Certain tax offenses require that you know or believe you owe the taxes to be criminally liable.  His customers who honestly (though ignorantly) fall for his schtick have been acquitted.  Of course, he takes this as proving his schtick is true.

But it isn&#039;t -- and being acquitted doesn&#039;t get you off the hook for taxes, penalties and interest.  So instead of being incarcerated, his clients just go broke.  Woo-hoo!!!

Alot of these folks glom onto jury nullification, but don&#039;t bother to learn much about juries.  So they spout psuedo law, essentially (to use a militia-type term that they can understand) end up shooting blanks while sitting on real ammunition.  

I know of a case in which, while a &quot;pro-per&quot; defendant was making his admiralty law argument based on the gold fringed flag, the judge had the bailiff simply remove the flag from the courtroom.  By the time the arcane argument was over, the defendant found that the flag was gone...  What I&#039;ve told people is that interior decorators do not get to dictate the jurisdiction of the court.  

I would go so far as to say that 80-90% of what these people spout is true.  However, ask a prosecutor what he gets for proving 80-90% of the elements in his case.  (OK, in Harris County, maybe a conviction, but in a fair county...)  That&#039;s why people fall for it: give them enough you CAN prove, and they&#039;ll buy the part they know nothing about on a leap of faith.  And then, when lawyers say that Psuedolaw Guy is full of BS, they remember that 80-90% of what they were told was verified, and the lawyers lose credibility, not the Psuedolaw Guy.  And when the 10-20% that they took on faith later bites them in the butt, they blame the corrupt lawyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve known alot of these types of people for years.  One &#8220;shining&#8221; example is Peymon Mottadeheh, <a href="http://www.livefreenow.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.livefreenow.org</a>, who runs the &#8220;freedom law school.&#8221;  He invited me to speak at one of his &#8220;seminars&#8221; once, on juries.  He didn&#8217;t like the fact that I kept tearing apart the fallacies he was pushing.</p>
<p>The only thing these people have on their side is their gullibility.  Certain tax offenses require that you know or believe you owe the taxes to be criminally liable.  His customers who honestly (though ignorantly) fall for his schtick have been acquitted.  Of course, he takes this as proving his schtick is true.</p>
<p>But it isn&#8217;t &#8212; and being acquitted doesn&#8217;t get you off the hook for taxes, penalties and interest.  So instead of being incarcerated, his clients just go broke.  Woo-hoo!!!</p>
<p>Alot of these folks glom onto jury nullification, but don&#8217;t bother to learn much about juries.  So they spout psuedo law, essentially (to use a militia-type term that they can understand) end up shooting blanks while sitting on real ammunition.  </p>
<p>I know of a case in which, while a &#8220;pro-per&#8221; defendant was making his admiralty law argument based on the gold fringed flag, the judge had the bailiff simply remove the flag from the courtroom.  By the time the arcane argument was over, the defendant found that the flag was gone&#8230;  What I&#8217;ve told people is that interior decorators do not get to dictate the jurisdiction of the court.  </p>
<p>I would go so far as to say that 80-90% of what these people spout is true.  However, ask a prosecutor what he gets for proving 80-90% of the elements in his case.  (OK, in Harris County, maybe a conviction, but in a fair county&#8230;)  That&#8217;s why people fall for it: give them enough you CAN prove, and they&#8217;ll buy the part they know nothing about on a leap of faith.  And then, when lawyers say that Psuedolaw Guy is full of BS, they remember that 80-90% of what they were told was verified, and the lawyers lose credibility, not the Psuedolaw Guy.  And when the 10-20% that they took on faith later bites them in the butt, they blame the corrupt lawyers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bennett</title>
		<link>http://bennettandbennett.com/blog/2008/11/redemption-theory-vs-reality.html/comment-page-1#comment-7868</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that settles it, then. You&#039;ll end up in prison under statues.

You&#039;d better be careful, though. You&#039;re approaching dangerously close to the truth with that last sentence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that settles it, then. You&#8217;ll end up in prison under statues.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d better be careful, though. You&#8217;re approaching dangerously close to the truth with that last sentence.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Elms</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Elms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>II’ve been studying the UCC for 12 years along with information concerning redemption. I believe a lot a people go to jail because they don&#039;t understand what they are doing. They don&#039;t understand contracts or even banking, tax’s, international law, real estate, accounting...the list goes on. When you say things as if the UCC is not the supreme law of the land or lands...I begin to wonder how much you really know!? Do you really believe the constitution applies to us this very day? The notion of freedom has lost it value. We truly are not free men, but what is a free man? We do not run under any common laws to this very day, so what do you suggest is the supreme law of today sir? And no one ever said that if you redeem your straw-man that you break free...It&#039;s only a small...very small step into controlling your own life, and taking responsibility of it...when you make argument that redeeming your straw-man does not make you free or sovereign...Is like arguing that 2 plus 2 does not equal 3...everyone that understands that mathematics knows that...just like everyone that truly knows redemption knows that just because you redeem yourself doesn’t mean you know how to function as a creditor...or how to function under a bankruptcy...or how to pay your taxes when you enter into a court setting..Ask elvik...he&#039;ll tell you! He learned the hard way...but he knows...they even know that, but any time you go against the government, you’re a fool. I know many true freeman...and if you knew them you would shut down your site...but its good because freedom is for those who are humble, not the greedy...or the easy way to make money because you&#039;ll end up in prison under statues..Not law...and what regulates statues? What regulates commerce? What regulates the way we live? Read yourself...study yourself...know yourself...then watch freedom enter into your life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>II’ve been studying the UCC for 12 years along with information concerning redemption. I believe a lot a people go to jail because they don&#8217;t understand what they are doing. They don&#8217;t understand contracts or even banking, tax’s, international law, real estate, accounting&#8230;the list goes on. When you say things as if the UCC is not the supreme law of the land or lands&#8230;I begin to wonder how much you really know!? Do you really believe the constitution applies to us this very day? The notion of freedom has lost it value. We truly are not free men, but what is a free man? We do not run under any common laws to this very day, so what do you suggest is the supreme law of today sir? And no one ever said that if you redeem your straw-man that you break free&#8230;It&#8217;s only a small&#8230;very small step into controlling your own life, and taking responsibility of it&#8230;when you make argument that redeeming your straw-man does not make you free or sovereign&#8230;Is like arguing that 2 plus 2 does not equal 3&#8230;everyone that understands that mathematics knows that&#8230;just like everyone that truly knows redemption knows that just because you redeem yourself doesn’t mean you know how to function as a creditor&#8230;or how to function under a bankruptcy&#8230;or how to pay your taxes when you enter into a court setting..Ask elvik&#8230;he&#8217;ll tell you! He learned the hard way&#8230;but he knows&#8230;they even know that, but any time you go against the government, you’re a fool. I know many true freeman&#8230;and if you knew them you would shut down your site&#8230;but its good because freedom is for those who are humble, not the greedy&#8230;or the easy way to make money because you&#8217;ll end up in prison under statues..Not law&#8230;and what regulates statues? What regulates commerce? What regulates the way we live? Read yourself&#8230;study yourself&#8230;know yourself&#8230;then watch freedom enter into your life!</p>
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		<title>By: ew keane</title>
		<link>http://bennettandbennett.com/blog/2008/11/redemption-theory-vs-reality.html/comment-page-1#comment-7484</link>
		<dc:creator>ew keane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only escape from the commercial system is to leave it alone.

Modern men cant do it.  For one thing, modern men lack the skill to live on the land.

Second, if you try to live in someones woods, they will call the sherriff, and you will be hauled off to jail for tresspassing. Same thing with national parks.  They discourage people moving in permanently, and have camp fees (theres the commercial paper thing again) to discourage loitering.

Modern men cant live without money, and who ever controlls the value and availabillity
of money is the master.  The rest, just vassils.

The straw man is nothing more than book keeping entrys...file jackets, sectors on computer tape and hard drives.  It is the civil persona that in the old days of out
lawing a man ment striking the name from the books.  It is a representation for 
legislature, a hypothetical subject, a plaything of jurists.  Modern man, sadly, is 
numbered for life, a human resource to be tracked, counted and exploited for
&#039;the good of the commonwealrh&#039;, and the middling draughtsmen that wrote this
system into existance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only escape from the commercial system is to leave it alone.</p>
<p>Modern men cant do it.  For one thing, modern men lack the skill to live on the land.</p>
<p>Second, if you try to live in someones woods, they will call the sherriff, and you will be hauled off to jail for tresspassing. Same thing with national parks.  They discourage people moving in permanently, and have camp fees (theres the commercial paper thing again) to discourage loitering.</p>
<p>Modern men cant live without money, and who ever controlls the value and availabillity<br />
of money is the master.  The rest, just vassils.</p>
<p>The straw man is nothing more than book keeping entrys&#8230;file jackets, sectors on computer tape and hard drives.  It is the civil persona that in the old days of out<br />
lawing a man ment striking the name from the books.  It is a representation for<br />
legislature, a hypothetical subject, a plaything of jurists.  Modern man, sadly, is<br />
numbered for life, a human resource to be tracked, counted and exploited for<br />
&#8216;the good of the commonwealrh&#8217;, and the middling draughtsmen that wrote this<br />
system into existance.</p>
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		<title>By: ew keane</title>
		<link>http://bennettandbennett.com/blog/2008/11/redemption-theory-vs-reality.html/comment-page-1#comment-7483</link>
		<dc:creator>ew keane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is something I found that was too old fashoned when I was in school.

http://www.archive.org/details/Despotis1946</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is something I found that was too old fashoned when I was in school.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.archive.org/details/Despotis1946" rel="nofollow">http://www.archive.org/details/Despotis1946</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pedro Alfaro</title>
		<link>http://bennettandbennett.com/blog/2008/11/redemption-theory-vs-reality.html/comment-page-1#comment-7476</link>
		<dc:creator>Pedro Alfaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 02:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Mark Bennett,   It appears that the same garbage is being sold in Australia by Con Artists who pretend to be Admiralty Law Experts.  I have been for some time trying to warn Australians about a person named Mark Pytellek who is conducting what he calls Honour Dishonour System in which he teaches people the garbage about UCC, Admiralty Law and how to harass creditors with the allegations of presentments and other garbage.   People are paying him A$400- and up for his alleged valuable material for which he has alleged Barristers have told him his time is worth  A$1500 per hour.   For the A$400 that people pays him they get an alleged valuable manual and a copy of a DVD of his previous seminars.    Many people that have try the lunacy of Mark Pytellek has got in deep trouble with the Court and some have been jailed for refusing to sign Bail conditions alleging that they are sovereigns and that the law does not apply to them.
The Federal Court of Australia on 24 April 2008 decided the case of Paul John Rana who try to use the garbage that the Con Artist Mark Pytellek sold to him and the Federal Judge was less than impressed with the documents prepared by the so called Admiralty Law Expert Mark Pytellek.
People that I know personally, have got themselves into trouble by following the teaching of Mark Pytellek whom like others have alleged that freemen and women do not need to register their vehicles or have a driver’s licence to drive on the roads and this people after they have been fined have commenced to harass the Police Officers, Sheriffs and other Government employees with Notices of damages for millions of dollars and UCC documents and claims of damages.
But it appears that after all the Cases decided by the Courts and all the evidence against the teaching of Con Artist like Mark Pytellek , these people do not want to hear the truth that they have been conned and persist on the way to their own downfall and that of the families.     One example is that of Arthur and Fiona Cristian who own a website called Love for Life  www.loveforlife.com.au   and whom I know and my family considered our friends, but cannot longer watch them destroy  their own family by following the alleged Admiralty Law Expertise of Mark Pytellek.  I have try for a long time to make them see that they are going the wrong way.     But what can you do when they do not want to see the reality that they have been conned.   Fiona Cristian was arrested for unlicensed driving and driving an unregistered vehicle and now has to attend Court on 6 April 2009 and maybe that would make them understand that the alleged admiralty law expertise of Mark Pytellek is garbage.
I would also to take this opportunity to thank you for the much valuable information and material that I have obtained from reading your website and I will make sure that others visit your site so that the intelligent person stay away from the Con Artists that are promoting all these garbage in countries like Australia, Canada, USA and other Commonwealth countries.
Sincerely
Pedro Alfaro</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Mark Bennett,   It appears that the same garbage is being sold in Australia by Con Artists who pretend to be Admiralty Law Experts.  I have been for some time trying to warn Australians about a person named Mark Pytellek who is conducting what he calls Honour Dishonour System in which he teaches people the garbage about UCC, Admiralty Law and how to harass creditors with the allegations of presentments and other garbage.   People are paying him A$400- and up for his alleged valuable material for which he has alleged Barristers have told him his time is worth  A$1500 per hour.   For the A$400 that people pays him they get an alleged valuable manual and a copy of a DVD of his previous seminars.    Many people that have try the lunacy of Mark Pytellek has got in deep trouble with the Court and some have been jailed for refusing to sign Bail conditions alleging that they are sovereigns and that the law does not apply to them.<br />
The Federal Court of Australia on 24 April 2008 decided the case of Paul John Rana who try to use the garbage that the Con Artist Mark Pytellek sold to him and the Federal Judge was less than impressed with the documents prepared by the so called Admiralty Law Expert Mark Pytellek.<br />
People that I know personally, have got themselves into trouble by following the teaching of Mark Pytellek whom like others have alleged that freemen and women do not need to register their vehicles or have a driver’s licence to drive on the roads and this people after they have been fined have commenced to harass the Police Officers, Sheriffs and other Government employees with Notices of damages for millions of dollars and UCC documents and claims of damages.<br />
But it appears that after all the Cases decided by the Courts and all the evidence against the teaching of Con Artist like Mark Pytellek , these people do not want to hear the truth that they have been conned and persist on the way to their own downfall and that of the families.     One example is that of Arthur and Fiona Cristian who own a website called Love for Life  <a href="http://www.loveforlife.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.loveforlife.com.au</a>   and whom I know and my family considered our friends, but cannot longer watch them destroy  their own family by following the alleged Admiralty Law Expertise of Mark Pytellek.  I have try for a long time to make them see that they are going the wrong way.     But what can you do when they do not want to see the reality that they have been conned.   Fiona Cristian was arrested for unlicensed driving and driving an unregistered vehicle and now has to attend Court on 6 April 2009 and maybe that would make them understand that the alleged admiralty law expertise of Mark Pytellek is garbage.<br />
I would also to take this opportunity to thank you for the much valuable information and material that I have obtained from reading your website and I will make sure that others visit your site so that the intelligent person stay away from the Con Artists that are promoting all these garbage in countries like Australia, Canada, USA and other Commonwealth countries.<br />
Sincerely<br />
Pedro Alfaro</p>
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		<title>By: ew keane</title>
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		<dc:creator>ew keane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a struggle between two minoritys

One minority believes in life, liberty and property

The other minority, in detention, licence and seizure.

And in the middle, cops, crooks and the teaming millions.

If you want your liberty, keep away from commercial paper and institutions with a public flavor.  Public means that it is sure to be regulated by government in the interest of who ever has a stake 
in the plenary power of government, and that means the guys who loan your government money, and they insist that their interest payments be paid no matter what.  No mealy mouth lawyer is going to disturb that system.

Public institutions exsist for one cause. To maintain a status quo where aristocrats get a bite of all public activity, be it peddling hot dogs on the street corner,  or fleecing millions with hypotheticated notes.

My best advice to anyone is to do business in kind or cash with people you trust and who are discrete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a struggle between two minoritys</p>
<p>One minority believes in life, liberty and property</p>
<p>The other minority, in detention, licence and seizure.</p>
<p>And in the middle, cops, crooks and the teaming millions.</p>
<p>If you want your liberty, keep away from commercial paper and institutions with a public flavor.  Public means that it is sure to be regulated by government in the interest of who ever has a stake<br />
in the plenary power of government, and that means the guys who loan your government money, and they insist that their interest payments be paid no matter what.  No mealy mouth lawyer is going to disturb that system.</p>
<p>Public institutions exsist for one cause. To maintain a status quo where aristocrats get a bite of all public activity, be it peddling hot dogs on the street corner,  or fleecing millions with hypotheticated notes.</p>
<p>My best advice to anyone is to do business in kind or cash with people you trust and who are discrete.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bennett</title>
		<link>http://bennettandbennett.com/blog/2008/11/redemption-theory-vs-reality.html/comment-page-1#comment-7060</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The law is the command of the sovereign, to which a sanction attaches. Which is to say that the law is what the government (legislature, executive, and courts), with its guns and its prisons, says it is.

But there are no &quot;legalities of the strawman structure.&quot; There is no strawman to redeem. Fnord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The law is the command of the sovereign, to which a sanction attaches. Which is to say that the law is what the government (legislature, executive, and courts), with its guns and its prisons, says it is.</p>
<p>But there are no &#8220;legalities of the strawman structure.&#8221; There is no strawman to redeem. Fnord.</p>
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		<title>By: CS</title>
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		<dc:creator>CS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well,  I guess those who have gone to prison for it really did get something for free... room and board in the &quot;pen&quot;  LOL...  sorry , my bad humor. 
I am just a &quot;regular&quot; person and don&#039;t understand all the legalities of  the strawman structure and it&#039;s use as a bond however, it does seem the government has overstepped their bounds by doing this.   What makes it okay for them (various government organizations) to use  us (humans) when they (government officials) are elected by us ( citizens) to work for us?  
Why do we not get a choice in this matter?    Isn&#039;t the government acting &quot;above the 
 law&quot; by doing this without our permission?  Yet, if we as individuals persue claiming our full self by redeming our &quot;Strawman&quot;, we are doing something illegal?   I know this must sound so ignorant to you but, it is baffling to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,  I guess those who have gone to prison for it really did get something for free&#8230; room and board in the &#8220;pen&#8221;  LOL&#8230;  sorry , my bad humor.<br />
I am just a &#8220;regular&#8221; person and don&#8217;t understand all the legalities of  the strawman structure and it&#8217;s use as a bond however, it does seem the government has overstepped their bounds by doing this.   What makes it okay for them (various government organizations) to use  us (humans) when they (government officials) are elected by us ( citizens) to work for us?<br />
Why do we not get a choice in this matter?    Isn&#8217;t the government acting &#8220;above the<br />
 law&#8221; by doing this without our permission?  Yet, if we as individuals persue claiming our full self by redeming our &#8220;Strawman&#8221;, we are doing something illegal?   I know this must sound so ignorant to you but, it is baffling to me.</p>
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