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	<title>Comments on: Bravest of All at 451 Degrees</title>
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		<title>By: CPSIA chronicles, February 19</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPSIA chronicles, February 19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lair, John Holbo/Crooked Timber, 5 Kids and a Dog, Mark Bennett&#8217;s noteworthy posts at Defending People reprised at Blawg Review #199, Carter Wood at NAM ShopFloor and again, David Foster at Chicago [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lair, John Holbo/Crooked Timber, 5 Kids and a Dog, Mark Bennett&#8217;s noteworthy posts at Defending People reprised at Blawg Review #199, Carter Wood at NAM ShopFloor and again, David Foster at Chicago [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Shopfloor » Blog Archive &#187; CPSIA Update: Die, Velveteen Rabbit, Die!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shopfloor » Blog Archive &#187; CPSIA Update: Die, Velveteen Rabbit, Die!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The bill that became the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act, H.R. 4040, was introduced on November 1, 2007. It became law on August 14, 2008. Nine-plus months of Congressional consideration and negotiation and some limited floor debate. Nine months, and the result is economic havoc. Books being destroyed! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The bill that became the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act, H.R. 4040, was introduced on November 1, 2007. It became law on August 14, 2008. Nine-plus months of Congressional consideration and negotiation and some limited floor debate. Nine months, and the result is economic havoc. Books being destroyed! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CPSIA: &#8220;Books, left out at the curb&#8230;&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPSIA: &#8220;Books, left out at the curb&#8230;&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Some reactions to my coverage of the threat to pre-1985 kids&#8217; books, both at this site and in my new opinion piece at City Journal: famed sci-fi writer Jerry Pournelle (scroll to Feb. 12), Justin Taylor/Between Two Worlds, Series Books for Girls, Liberty Maven/DownsizeDC, Melissa Wiley, The Catholic Bubble, Carter Wood/ShopFloor, and Ella&#8217;s Deli. I also got a very nice note from Michael S. Hart, founder of old-text-preservation volunteer group Project Gutenberg, one of my favorite things about the Internet. And if you haven&#8217;t read Mark Bennett&#8217;s post at Defending People, linked earlier, go do so. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Some reactions to my coverage of the threat to pre-1985 kids&#8217; books, both at this site and in my new opinion piece at City Journal: famed sci-fi writer Jerry Pournelle (scroll to Feb. 12), Justin Taylor/Between Two Worlds, Series Books for Girls, Liberty Maven/DownsizeDC, Melissa Wiley, The Catholic Bubble, Carter Wood/ShopFloor, and Ella&#8217;s Deli. I also got a very nice note from Michael S. Hart, founder of old-text-preservation volunteer group Project Gutenberg, one of my favorite things about the Internet. And if you haven&#8217;t read Mark Bennett&#8217;s post at Defending People, linked earlier, go do so. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DeputyHeadmistress</title>
		<link>http://bennettandbennett.com/blog/2009/02/bravest-of-all-at-451-degrees.html/comment-page-1#comment-7059</link>
		<dc:creator>DeputyHeadmistress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 01:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Egad.  It&#039;s an outrage that ought NOT to be accepted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Egad.  It&#8217;s an outrage that ought NOT to be accepted.</p>
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		<title>By: Consumer Products Safety Improvement Act Leads Consumer Products Safety Commission To Advise Secondhand and Thrift and Consignment Stores To Destroy Children's Books Made Before 1985 &#124; Popehat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Consumer Products Safety Improvement Act Leads Consumer Products Safety Commission To Advise Secondhand and Thrift and Consignment Stores To Destroy Children's Books Made Before 1985 &#124; Popehat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 23:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at Defending People, Mark Bennett has some apt commentary. What are the chances of Congress doing anything competent in the wake of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DeputyHeadmistress</title>
		<link>http://bennettandbennett.com/blog/2009/02/bravest-of-all-at-451-degrees.html/comment-page-1#comment-7054</link>
		<dc:creator>DeputyHeadmistress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And not all oop books are public domain.  Some people still own copyrights, and may not wish to share, and in some cases, it&#039;s not clear who owns the copyrights.

Another problem- there aren&#039;t enough buyers interested in each and every old treasure to justify the costs of reprinting every single one of them, especially with the new requirements that all components of each new title be subjected to expensive, redundant, third party testing.  Testing can run into the thousands of dollars.

Republish Bravest of All, and how many people are going to buy it?  Five hundred?  Okay, so then use the same inks, papers, and presses to republish, say, The Provensen&#039;s A Peaceable Kingdom (a sweet picture book last published in 1981), and you have to do the testing of those same materials all over again- and for how many copies?  How many thousands of copies have to be sold just to recoup testing costs?

My family has safely and frugally stocked a family library of over 8,000 volumes, half of which were published before 1985.  We filled our shelves with oop books discovered at library booksales and thrift shops, seldom paying over a dollar a book; most of them we paid .25 a book.  We sometimes more than paid for our own books by buying and selling others- an activity no longer available to me. If we had to rely only on currently in print volumes purchased new, we could not afford to own more than a few of these treasures (we have a large family, my husband supported us through his salary as an enlisted man in the AF).

All this, without any evidence that a child was ever harmed by lead in a book.  It is a wholly untenable law, and it&#039;s an outrage that ought to be accepted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And not all oop books are public domain.  Some people still own copyrights, and may not wish to share, and in some cases, it&#8217;s not clear who owns the copyrights.</p>
<p>Another problem- there aren&#8217;t enough buyers interested in each and every old treasure to justify the costs of reprinting every single one of them, especially with the new requirements that all components of each new title be subjected to expensive, redundant, third party testing.  Testing can run into the thousands of dollars.</p>
<p>Republish Bravest of All, and how many people are going to buy it?  Five hundred?  Okay, so then use the same inks, papers, and presses to republish, say, The Provensen&#8217;s A Peaceable Kingdom (a sweet picture book last published in 1981), and you have to do the testing of those same materials all over again- and for how many copies?  How many thousands of copies have to be sold just to recoup testing costs?</p>
<p>My family has safely and frugally stocked a family library of over 8,000 volumes, half of which were published before 1985.  We filled our shelves with oop books discovered at library booksales and thrift shops, seldom paying over a dollar a book; most of them we paid .25 a book.  We sometimes more than paid for our own books by buying and selling others- an activity no longer available to me. If we had to rely only on currently in print volumes purchased new, we could not afford to own more than a few of these treasures (we have a large family, my husband supported us through his salary as an enlisted man in the AF).</p>
<p>All this, without any evidence that a child was ever harmed by lead in a book.  It is a wholly untenable law, and it&#8217;s an outrage that ought to be accepted.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bennett</title>
		<link>http://bennettandbennett.com/blog/2009/02/bravest-of-all-at-451-degrees.html/comment-page-1#comment-7048</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Problem is that apparently when a book goes out of print nobody saves the plates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problem is that apparently when a book goes out of print nobody saves the plates.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Chan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see this as an opportunity for publishers to sell new copies of children&#039;s books from an earlier era.</description>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do what I did Put the old books in a box and keep the box. I&#039;ve got everything from that very book to old G.I. Joe comics. Not to mention the Hardy Boys and whatnot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do what I did Put the old books in a box and keep the box. I&#8217;ve got everything from that very book to old G.I. Joe comics. Not to mention the Hardy Boys and whatnot.</p>
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		<title>By: CPSIA and vintage books</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPSIA and vintage books</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Reactions from Houston criminal defense blogger Mark Bennett at Defending People, Carter Wood at NAM ShopFloor, and David Foster at Chicago [...]</description>
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