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		<title>By: cliff coleman</title>
		<link>http://bennettandbennett.com/blog/2009/02/stand-and-deliver-in-tenaha.html/comment-page-1#comment-9342</link>
		<dc:creator>cliff coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the mayor of tenaha  son was charged for drugs ,every little town thats in shelby county is crooked,the D.A. missed placed evidence when it was time for husbands case to be presented in front of a grand jury for child molestation and he works for the shelby county police department. THe sheriff here in shelby county takes drugs from poeple to turn around and sell for his own profit.Half of shelby counties top dogs are under investgation,but like always they&#039;ll find some loop hole to get out of what ever they&#039;ve done</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the mayor of tenaha  son was charged for drugs ,every little town thats in shelby county is crooked,the D.A. missed placed evidence when it was time for husbands case to be presented in front of a grand jury for child molestation and he works for the shelby county police department. THe sheriff here in shelby county takes drugs from poeple to turn around and sell for his own profit.Half of shelby counties top dogs are under investgation,but like always they&#8217;ll find some loop hole to get out of what ever they&#8217;ve done</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 04:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, John,  you think this is a *Texas*  thing?

If so, if you really believe that, then you are just as bone-headed, reactionary and narrow-minded as the  cretins who perpetrate this kind of outrage and those who defend it. 

Sorry, this is not a Republican v. Democrat, as some have suggested; and it&#039;s not a red state v. blue state, nor a flaky, dusty little town v. big city issue or anything of the sort; it happens because of a certain law-enforcement cohort and philosophy that holds that we ALL are suspects (I refer you to the excellent post above) and it permeates this *whole* country.  Do you really need to be reminded of the numerous cases of police misconduct that have been in the news in recent years from California and New York?  

Think unjustified asset forfeiture is a Texas thing? Spend an hour or so browsing www.fear.org. 

In the Tenaha case, it&#039;s just more drug warrior tactics of the sort employed in Lousiana about 10-12 years ago, which many above the age of 15 may remember. (Iit&#039;s amazing what a blind eye the American people will turn to such abuses when law enforcement plays the drug card.)

 They basically get around what would otherwise be 4th &amp; 5th Amendment issues by making the seizures a civil matter *against the seized property* rather than criminal, and oops, whatdya know, your property has no Bill of Rights protection against being sued by the government.

 Defenders of this practice  (like on the Chicago Tribune&#039;s comment section) say, &quot;well, if they weren&#039;t guilty of something, they could and should hire a lawyer and sue for retrieval their money and goods. . . ., etc. &quot; (Kind of like the argument that you shouldn&#039;t object to being searched it you&#039;ve nothing to hide.) Never mind, of course, that a lot of these folks haven&#039;t the resources to sue law enforcement institutions that have standing legal reps (Like DAs) or
are already intimidated by the system, are intimidated by the threats of the 
cops, or have learned there&#039;s no percentage in fighting city hall, 
especially where you&#039;re a stranger;  never mind that, if innocent,  no-one 
should be *required* to hire an attorney to retrieve their property and 
never mind that they&#039;d have little left of their confiscated cash if they 
did.

What do you expect, it&#039;s Texas, after all? 

Power corrupts, John. Wherever you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, John,  you think this is a *Texas*  thing?</p>
<p>If so, if you really believe that, then you are just as bone-headed, reactionary and narrow-minded as the  cretins who perpetrate this kind of outrage and those who defend it. </p>
<p>Sorry, this is not a Republican v. Democrat, as some have suggested; and it&#8217;s not a red state v. blue state, nor a flaky, dusty little town v. big city issue or anything of the sort; it happens because of a certain law-enforcement cohort and philosophy that holds that we ALL are suspects (I refer you to the excellent post above) and it permeates this *whole* country.  Do you really need to be reminded of the numerous cases of police misconduct that have been in the news in recent years from California and New York?  </p>
<p>Think unjustified asset forfeiture is a Texas thing? Spend an hour or so browsing <a href="http://www.fear.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.fear.org</a>. </p>
<p>In the Tenaha case, it&#8217;s just more drug warrior tactics of the sort employed in Lousiana about 10-12 years ago, which many above the age of 15 may remember. (Iit&#8217;s amazing what a blind eye the American people will turn to such abuses when law enforcement plays the drug card.)</p>
<p> They basically get around what would otherwise be 4th &amp; 5th Amendment issues by making the seizures a civil matter *against the seized property* rather than criminal, and oops, whatdya know, your property has no Bill of Rights protection against being sued by the government.</p>
<p> Defenders of this practice  (like on the Chicago Tribune&#8217;s comment section) say, &#8220;well, if they weren&#8217;t guilty of something, they could and should hire a lawyer and sue for retrieval their money and goods. . . ., etc. &#8221; (Kind of like the argument that you shouldn&#8217;t object to being searched it you&#8217;ve nothing to hide.) Never mind, of course, that a lot of these folks haven&#8217;t the resources to sue law enforcement institutions that have standing legal reps (Like DAs) or<br />
are already intimidated by the system, are intimidated by the threats of the<br />
cops, or have learned there&#8217;s no percentage in fighting city hall,<br />
especially where you&#8217;re a stranger;  never mind that, if innocent,  no-one<br />
should be *required* to hire an attorney to retrieve their property and<br />
never mind that they&#8217;d have little left of their confiscated cash if they<br />
did.</p>
<p>What do you expect, it&#8217;s Texas, after all? </p>
<p>Power corrupts, John. Wherever you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia Lebo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia Lebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 07:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Police corruption is not limited to Texas.  I worked at the Fayetteville Police Dept in NC for four years.  Please warn the attorneys that they need to watch out for spring loaded syringes shooting up from car seats when they sit down.  They need to watch out for car wrecks, family members and co-workers being pitted against them, possible shootings, being drugged, etc.  If the attorneys are lucky enough to maintain their integrity now, in ten years or so, their integrity will be ruined by corrupt officers.  The threat of children being taken away is an old one.  The attorneys need to look for a family relationship between DSS and the Police Department.  When I worked at the FPD, Lt. Richard Bryan&#039;ts ex-wife worked for DSS.  One social worker made secret notes on the back of paper reports for future reference, but Lt. Richard Bryant had his ex-wife remove her notes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Police corruption is not limited to Texas.  I worked at the Fayetteville Police Dept in NC for four years.  Please warn the attorneys that they need to watch out for spring loaded syringes shooting up from car seats when they sit down.  They need to watch out for car wrecks, family members and co-workers being pitted against them, possible shootings, being drugged, etc.  If the attorneys are lucky enough to maintain their integrity now, in ten years or so, their integrity will be ruined by corrupt officers.  The threat of children being taken away is an old one.  The attorneys need to look for a family relationship between DSS and the Police Department.  When I worked at the FPD, Lt. Richard Bryan&#8217;ts ex-wife worked for DSS.  One social worker made secret notes on the back of paper reports for future reference, but Lt. Richard Bryant had his ex-wife remove her notes.</p>
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		<title>By: John Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 22:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you expect,its Texas after all...TEN-aha, twenty-aha,got any valuables-aha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you expect,its Texas after all&#8230;TEN-aha, twenty-aha,got any valuables-aha</p>
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		<title>By: erexx</title>
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		<dc:creator>erexx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 18:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This kind of thing erodes respect for the police in general.
Once that is gone there will be no justice, because the perception that justice is corrupted.

Stay out of Tenaha... or let you be the next victim of police corruption.

On the surface it sounds like a great example of the police force being trained with blinders on.
A method of police training that leads to megalomaniacal ego&#039;s in uniform.
An US vs. THEM mentality instead of a &quot;to protect and serve&quot; ideal.
It’s the difference between those who choose to think and feel and those who simply choose to follow with &quot;programmed&quot; thinking and feeling. 
One is service for the greater good and the other is servitude (to mostly themselves.)

Unfortunately, it looks like some Tenaha police officers prefer to serve themselves and their own personal interests instead of looking out for those they serve.

This demonstrates an incredible lack of leadership from the top down.
This is probably why a flat denial was posted instead of a honest internal review.
A flat denial implies that Tenaha police officers are apparently immune to corruption. 

Its never good to start any relationship with a lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of thing erodes respect for the police in general.<br />
Once that is gone there will be no justice, because the perception that justice is corrupted.</p>
<p>Stay out of Tenaha&#8230; or let you be the next victim of police corruption.</p>
<p>On the surface it sounds like a great example of the police force being trained with blinders on.<br />
A method of police training that leads to megalomaniacal ego&#8217;s in uniform.<br />
An US vs. THEM mentality instead of a &#8220;to protect and serve&#8221; ideal.<br />
It’s the difference between those who choose to think and feel and those who simply choose to follow with &#8220;programmed&#8221; thinking and feeling.<br />
One is service for the greater good and the other is servitude (to mostly themselves.)</p>
<p>Unfortunately, it looks like some Tenaha police officers prefer to serve themselves and their own personal interests instead of looking out for those they serve.</p>
<p>This demonstrates an incredible lack of leadership from the top down.<br />
This is probably why a flat denial was posted instead of a honest internal review.<br />
A flat denial implies that Tenaha police officers are apparently immune to corruption. </p>
<p>Its never good to start any relationship with a lie.</p>
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		<title>By: irlandes</title>
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		<dc:creator>irlandes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sort of thing is happening all over the US, and not just to minorities.

August 6, I think 2007, around 9:30 pm, my wife and I were driving in Mississippi, headed to Hattiesburg to spend the night. We passed a cop car, apparently searching a rental truck. A few miles down the road here came a cop car, at a high rate of speed, hovered behind us while checking our plates, then pulled us over.

He walked up to the back of our Toyota mini-van and gave a mighty tug on the hatch, obviously trying to open it.

Then, he came to the side door, and gave some story that I might not have pulled over when passing the parked cop car.  Wrong, But, then told us he just wanted us to know about the new law. I am from Texas, and to not pull over or slow down by a cop car is a serious offense.

I did not understand until I called my son. He also experienced a false probable cause stop a couple hours earlier while crossing Arkansas.  We were meeting at his house in VA the next day.


Then, I realized that cop almost certainly was going to find drugs in my car and steal it if he had gotten that door open.

This is happening all over the US. I have talked to young people in McAllen who get stopped for totally false things.

But, don&#039;t blame the cops nor the mayor. The judiciary are the folks who took a law which was supposed to confiscate property from those who made it illegally, only when they were convicted.  The judiciary said this was a civil matter, thus there need be no proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

And, when they pull shenanigans, it is the judiciary which makes them go through a $30,000 trial when they steal a $5,000 car or cash instead of following the Constitution and summarily ordering the assets returned..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sort of thing is happening all over the US, and not just to minorities.</p>
<p>August 6, I think 2007, around 9:30 pm, my wife and I were driving in Mississippi, headed to Hattiesburg to spend the night. We passed a cop car, apparently searching a rental truck. A few miles down the road here came a cop car, at a high rate of speed, hovered behind us while checking our plates, then pulled us over.</p>
<p>He walked up to the back of our Toyota mini-van and gave a mighty tug on the hatch, obviously trying to open it.</p>
<p>Then, he came to the side door, and gave some story that I might not have pulled over when passing the parked cop car.  Wrong, But, then told us he just wanted us to know about the new law. I am from Texas, and to not pull over or slow down by a cop car is a serious offense.</p>
<p>I did not understand until I called my son. He also experienced a false probable cause stop a couple hours earlier while crossing Arkansas.  We were meeting at his house in VA the next day.</p>
<p>Then, I realized that cop almost certainly was going to find drugs in my car and steal it if he had gotten that door open.</p>
<p>This is happening all over the US. I have talked to young people in McAllen who get stopped for totally false things.</p>
<p>But, don&#8217;t blame the cops nor the mayor. The judiciary are the folks who took a law which was supposed to confiscate property from those who made it illegally, only when they were convicted.  The judiciary said this was a civil matter, thus there need be no proof beyond a reasonable doubt.</p>
<p>And, when they pull shenanigans, it is the judiciary which makes them go through a $30,000 trial when they steal a $5,000 car or cash instead of following the Constitution and summarily ordering the assets returned..</p>
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		<title>By: SFA Student</title>
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		<dc:creator>SFA Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The patrol cars the officers in Tenaha are driving are Dodge Chargers. How much money are these people getting from motorists?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The patrol cars the officers in Tenaha are driving are Dodge Chargers. How much money are these people getting from motorists?</p>
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		<title>By: SFA Student</title>
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		<dc:creator>SFA Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 18:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting facts straight is something that the previous poster may have needed to do. The estimated half of the Tenaha population that is black are not the same people that are writing, enacting, and enforcing policy. How many black members are there on the City Council. The majority of black citizen in Tenaha are below the poverty level, and they rent. I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll have to explain the significance of that... They do not pay taxes to the city. I&#039;m not saying that poor black people are bad. I&#039;m just saying that the ones you&#039;re saying aren&#039;t racist aren&#039;t the ones being written about in the above story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting facts straight is something that the previous poster may have needed to do. The estimated half of the Tenaha population that is black are not the same people that are writing, enacting, and enforcing policy. How many black members are there on the City Council. The majority of black citizen in Tenaha are below the poverty level, and they rent. I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll have to explain the significance of that&#8230; They do not pay taxes to the city. I&#8217;m not saying that poor black people are bad. I&#8217;m just saying that the ones you&#8217;re saying aren&#8217;t racist aren&#8217;t the ones being written about in the above story.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably in Chronicle archives.

Edit: Yep. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=2009_4699094&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably in Chronicle archives.</p>
<p>Edit: Yep. <a href="http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=2009_4699094" rel="nofollow">Link</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: copsneedMoney2</title>
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		<dc:creator>copsneedMoney2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s the article now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s the article now?</p>
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